50 Tips While Working With Mobile Home Handymen And Contractors

Welcome back,

Over the past week there were so many mistakes made in my business during the hiring and firing of a deadbeat handyman. Luckily these mistakes only cost me a small bit of time and money.

These mistakes revolved around hiring a high-risk handymen who should have never been on the job to begin with. This handyman lasted only four long days before we had to let him go due to poor work performance and a bad attitude.

Preface

A handymen was being hired to repair and maintain mobile homes at a 110-unit mobile home park acquisition new to my portfolio. Prospective handymen were responding from online, off-line, and newspaper advertisements.

That said hindsight is 20/20. So now let me give you a recap of all my mistakes so you can avoid them in your own real estate investing business. Below is a list of some of the major mistakes made.

8 Mistakes I Made That Led to the Hiring (& Firing) of a Deadbeat Handyman

1. I did not test his performance prior to giving him work.

Moving forward, all prospective handymen will bid and perform multiple jobs ranging in skilled abilities before a full-time position will be offered. By not testing your handymen’s capabilities, you can only trust them on their words.

2. Bad attitude was overlooked in our first few interactions.

Looking back, it is hard to see how I missed this while dealing with this handyman for multiple days. A bad attitude can be like a blanket in that it covers a person’s attitude, expressions and work performance. This poor choice for a handyman was quickly souring relations between the park manager, myself and residents.

3. I listened to his excuses more than once.

Excuses stink! Excuses are the result of poor planning, a lack of communication, and throwing in the towel. Looking back, I think how stupid I just was at allowing this handyman to procrastinate and make excuses, instead of improvements.

4. I did not interview with more than 3 people before hiring him.

I was pushing myself to stay ahead of my own deadline with regard to making repairs and selling mobile homes in my newly acquired mobile home community. Due to this rush, I hired the second handyman who applied and sweet talked his way into a job. Admittedly, I fell for this handyman’s story; he talked the talk, but couldn’t walk the walk.

All handymen moving forward will be interviewed at length, and a minimum of 10 handymen will be screened and given test jobs before one is hired.

5. I did not have an adequate system in place to keep him on-track.

Before the handyman ever started, there should have been in on-boarding process to welcome and transition this handyman on to the team. Since letting this handyman go, we have started using and implementing Basecamp.com to track our job progress, changes, deadlines, responsibilities and the duties of each person on the team.

6. I did not interview in front of the park manager.

There was always an error in the chain of command. While walking this handyman around the park and interviewing him prior to hiring, we never stopped to talk to or meet with the long time park manager. Once this handyman was hired, he gave little respect to the park manager or her wishes.

7. I did not set firm enough boundaries.

Working one-on-one with handymen, residents, and employees can make for tricky business. Great leaders are not born, they are made. Over the coming months and years, this balance between boss, coworker, and friend will have to be adjusted and tested time and time again. With every mistake, I make my personal boundaries of what I will allow and not allow become stronger and clearer. The clearer these boundaries are to me, the clearer I can make them to others.

8. I did not adequately set expectations and a vision for the park.

If you don’t believe in your vision, who will? This mobile home park is a fixer upper, with a lot of potential in a great up-and-coming little city. As community owner and leader, it is my job to sell this vision in the minds and hearts of the residents, employees, and local community.

Example: “Our vision and goal is to provide a safe, friendly, and comfortable group of neighbors living together in a great mobile home community.”

In conclusion, I totally blame myself for the poor choices and quick decision to hire this handyman. I am not a born manager, leader, or mobile home park owner. However, for all the experience and knowledge I lack, I am determined to push forward and learn from every win and mistake made. This entire article may have been avoided had I researched more and asked my mentors for their personal advice dealing with and hiring handymen and handywomen.


 

50 Mobile Home Handyman Tips

  1. Do not include material costs in your handymen’s bids. You will provide and pay for these materials as needed. Contractors up charging you for materials is one of the oldest tricks in the book.
  2. Give your potential handyman a small task, such as; fixing a soft spot in the floor, correcting a small plumbing problem, removing and replacing a tiny bit water stains on the roof, patching a mobile home metal roof with a 5 gallon bucket of roof cement/tar, or building new steps up to the home’s entrance. This small test will help give you hints as to the handyman’s proficiency, speed, quality and problem-solving abilities.
  3. Ask for referrals and check references.
  4. Understand the difference between the price of something in the cost of something. Prices the amount of money you pay upfront for an item or service, however the cost is the amount of money will pay over the life time of the product or service.
  5. Make sure your handymen and contractors have at least 3 years of mobile home rehab experience. A handyman or contractor that is experienced with mobile homes will save you 30%-70% time and money with their knowledge of quick and accurate fixes needed for each job. We never want to just “Band-Aid” a problem, we want to make sure to correct the issue now and moving forward. A mobile home experienced handyman will save you time and money and get the job done right.
  6. Don’t listen to a contractor or handyman tells you mobile homes and single-family homes are basically the same construction.
  7. Talk is cheap. Action speaks so much louder than words.
  8. While you’re walking through your investment mobile home with your handyman, ask them, “How would you fix this?” The handyman or contractor should have a quick and accurate answer for you. They should keep in mind your limited budget for each mobile home.
  9. Show up to hardware stores at 6 AM and befriend local contractors and handymen getting started for work.
  10. It is not your job to train your handyman or contractor.
  11. Remember you’re the boss!
  12. Let contractors and handymen bid a price per home based on all the jobs added together. If you have any questions about how long or costly a mobile home rehab or repair might be please email me at support@mobilehomeinvesting.net. If a handyman ever asks you, “How much are you looking to spend to fix this home?” Your answer should always be, “As little as possible. Please bid the job as competitively as you can.”
  13. Make sure to sign a contract stating the amount of compensation, time expected, and specific repairs for each investment home. The more specific you can be the better.
  14. Keep track of repairs being made with constant updates from your handyman daily and/or by using a program such as Basecamp.com to track repairs as they are being made.
  15. If you own an entire mobile home park make sure to interview all handymen and contractors in front of the park manager. Handymen with bad attitudes may sometimes forget the park manager is the boss while you are not there.
  16. Never tolerate a bad attitude or excuses from a handyman. How someone does one thing is how they do everything.
  17. Interview at least 10 handymen or contractors before settling with one. Some handyman or contractor’s won’t even show up to your appointments. And the ones that do may not even get a bid back to you ever.
  18. Place an ad at the “Gigs” and “General Labor” section of Craigslist.com. Be very thorough in your wants, the repairs needed, and the compensation you will be paying. Definitely include very detailed pictures of the repairs needed.
  19. Always take bids by the job and not by the hour. Again never agree to pay a handyman or contractor per hour.
  20. While interacting with your handymen always be: #1 business and professional, #2 respectful, and in a very distant #3 social. You are not friends, you are client and worker. It is so much easier to be taken advantage of if you are more friends than you are business associates.
  21. Your handyman or contractor should not be begging you for work. They should also be not so swamped that they can’t fit you in until next month.
  22. Pay your handyman a 1099 and not a W-2. You do not want an employee, you want a subcontractor.
  23. Google search for reviews on every potential contractor or handyman you consider.
  24. Will your handyman or contractor be using subcontractors on this project?
  25. Will your handyman or contractor be personally overseeing the work?
  26. How long have they been running their own crew? How many guys do they currently have on their crew?
  27. How do they clean up their job site when they’re done?
  28. Think of hiring a contractor or handyman as a triangle. In one corner you have the Quality of the handyman’s work. In another corner you have the Price the handyman will charge per hour and/or for the total job. And in the last corner you have the Service, or the speed and promptness at which these repairs get done. You will find many handymen that fill only one of these corners , few that fill two of these corners  and only through searching high and low will you find a handymen that fits all three corners.
  29. Know your numbers before you ever get started. Before you make any seller your purchase offers, make sure to calculate the repairs needed.
  30. Concerning mobile homes, account for an extra 20% in miscellaneous and unexpected repairs.
  31. Each mistake makes you stronger. Learn from your mistakes. None of us are perfect or born leaders. Make sure to review every deal and look for the mistakes to correct and never duplicate.
  32. Ask for handymen referrals at your local Real Estate Investors Association or club meeting. If you’re not sure where your local real estate investors club meeting is being held click here to find locations in your state.
  33. If you sense something is not working-out, bring it up immediately. Never hesitate to dismiss a handymen from a job.
  34. Ask your handymen and contractors if they are licensed and insured. You want them to be.
  35. A handyman or contractor should make your life easier. If they are not, dump them.
  36. Handymen and contractors that understand plumbing is a bonus.
  37. It is a big red flag if the handyman is bad-mouthing or trash-talking their last employer.
  38. Again, you absolutely want a handyman or contractor with many years mobile home repair experience.
  39. Handywomen are just as awesome as handymen. Many times even more competent and reliable.
  40. Let your handyman or contractor know that you want to build a long-term relationship with them. This is not just one single job, you will have more work for them in the near future on your next investment property.
  41. Has your handyman or contractor ever had a disciplinary action filed against them?
  42. Does your handyman or contractor ever give written warranties?
  43. Although a handymen may be very talented at making repairs, they may be an awful business operator/manager for themselves.
  44. Ask local park managers for mobile home handymen referrals and contractor referrals. Sometimes residents of their parks will be great handymen with years of experience that are looking for work.
  45. Be proactive and begin looking for handymen and referrals right now and before you actually need the work done.
  46. Do not pay a contractor or handyman upfront.
  47. If you have tenant-buyers that you are selling a home to then consider asking them at closing, “Are you handy? If so what can you do and do you want any extra work?” Some of my best handymen are our current residents; they do great work, are sober and reliable, they often times will accept payment in discounted future monthly rent, and you know where they live.
  48. Did I mention ask for referrals and references, and actually call all of them to get their honest and heartfelt feedback.
  49. Where is your handyman or contractor’s office?
  50. Knowledge is power. So if you have any questions or concerns about how much repairs should cost and how long this should take please don’t hesitate to email me personally at support@mobilehomeinvesting.net.

Do you have a handyman or contractor hiring tip? Please leave your opinion in the comments section below for us all to learn from.

Love what you do daily,
John Fedro

25 Comments

  • Simon Green

    Reply Reply May 7, 2015

    Holy crap this is a freaking great article. It couldn’t have come at a better time for me. This first investment will only need a little work however I def need to outsurce the work. Was debating what to do and who to fine.

    Seriously John. You’re a proverbial life saver, or at least saving me a few thousand and some headaches. So glad I found your site online. And Ill be back for certain. Also, is it alright if I contact you on email to ask some questions too? Id love to get your thoughts?

    Seriously, thank you again.
    Simon Green

    • John Fedro

      Reply Reply May 8, 2015

      Hi Simon,

      Right on! Thank you so much for reaching out and commenting. I am so glad that this article has been helpful and valuable for you already. Many of these tips have been from my own countless mistakes in this business. Luckily mobile homes are fairly forgiving and I’m a quick learner. 🙂

      If you have any additional questions or concerns never hesitate to reach out to me. Always happy to help.

      Talk soon,
      John

    • Julius Moran

      Reply Reply May 12, 2015

      Hello John. Thank you for the honesty and time given for these tips. I love that fact that you tell about your troubles as well as your victories. This is great great info and please keep it up. Youre an inspiration to me for this business and real estate investing in general. love your low pressure approach.

      Thank you again.
      Sincerely,
      Julius Moran

      • John Fedro

        Reply Reply May 12, 2015

        Hi Julius,

        Thank you so much for the kind words and for following along. I am definitely happy to share all of my successes and failures too. I’m glad to say that every day I continue to learn more and more about people and more about real estate investments in general. I love this business! 🙂 If you have any follow-up questions or concerns don’t ever hesitate to reach out. I’m always here to help.

        Talk soon,
        John

  • Judy Berrett, Student of yours

    Reply Reply May 8, 2015

    Hey John,

    Excellent article. I am just dealing with a contractor in another state on a house. He was referred by a close friend who is a Realtor. She had seen his work before, completed jobs for her before and has turned into a “devil” for me on a $9,000 job. I usually have a good instinct for people and right off the bat it took him a week to get back to me regarding his insurance, (he was licensed) before I accepted a contract with him. I didn’t feel good at that point and should of made the decision to use someone else. His workmanship has been poor, 2 weeks overdue on his finish deadline, a punchlist a mile long and he damaged brand new countertops in the kitchen while installing and stained a brand new base cabinet the wrong color. $1,000 worth of items ruined.

    I agree with you John, I knew better also. Check, check and recheck when hiring someone. It will save grief in the long run.

    Judy B

    • John Fedro

      Reply Reply May 11, 2015

      Hi Judy,

      I regret to hear this. Is this still going on or has this been resolved? Will you be filing a suit against this contractor?

      Hind site is always 20/20 and it seems so obvious now, bt you did a lot right with regards to getting a contract and verifying his insurance. Plus being out of state makes this situation all the harder. Did you pay him at all before getting started?

      Keep me in the loop and thank you so much for sharing. Very interested to know more. Feel free to anyways email me directly as well.

      Talk soon,
      John

  • Ben

    Reply Reply May 10, 2015

    Another excellent article John! Your writings definitely add to your credibility and provide real, actionable value for others looking to get into this niche market. Well done!

    • John Fedro

      Reply Reply May 11, 2015

      Hi Ben,

      Thank you so much for the kind words. I hope this article and videos have been helpful. All us investors that have made these mistakes hate to see others make the same costly and stressful errors. No one wants to be taken advantage of.

      Thanks for commenting.

      Talk soon,
      John

  • Ben

    Reply Reply May 11, 2015

    Excellent article John! These writings speak to the credibility that you have as a mentor and they are packed with actionable value for those interested in this niche. I can tell that you will be increasingly successful in the realm of park ownership. May I ask how your experience has been thus far in this? As an owner, with a manager, are you still largely in control of your time? I understand that a good park opportunity likely requires a good amount of work on the front end, as there is probably much upside potential such as vacancies. Care to comment on your time freedom in light of this?
    Thanks again for all the valuable info!

    • John Fedro

      Reply Reply May 11, 2015

      Hi Ben,

      Thank you so much again for the kind words and kudos. I would be very happy to answer your question about park ownership and how it has been going. I am having a blast up here learning so much about park ownership. I am very happy to say that through proper due diligence the only surprises I am finding are very pleasant ones. This park has a full-time property manager who is amazing, she has been here for the last 20 years and knows the ins and outs of everything to do with this park. With that said there is little management that I am personally doing. You mentioned about the park requiring much time on the front end, I suppose this varies from park to park. Before I ever purchased the mobile home park I knew exactly what had to be done. Again, I did much due diligence before I ever went into this park and was very clear on what would have to be done most steps of the way. In short I am very happy to say that I’m still able to invest in other areas of the country and have a good amount of free time to conduct other business as well. My answer might have been a little vague so please don’t hesitate to comment back with any specific questions or concerns you have. Always happy to help when I can.

      Talk soon,
      John

  • Cynthia Place

    Reply Reply May 15, 2015

    Thank you John.

    You have no idea how much this information helps me right now. I am going through a tough time dealing with the contractor for my SFR’s. I had to rewind your video multiple times to make sure I got all the tips. I can’t thank you enough. Keep up the great work and I will certainly be in touch if I need any more help.

    Rock on and cheers,
    Cynthia Place

    • John Fedro

      Reply Reply May 15, 2015

      Hi Cynthia,

      Thanks for reaching out and commenting. I regret to hear the frustrations and difficulty you’re going through dealing with this current contractor. I too have been scammed and swindled more times than I would like to admit. This is one of the main reasons I wanted to make this post and to help empower all readers to know how and why to stay in control always. If you have any specific questions or concerns I would be more than happy to help them in any way if I can. Never hesitate to comment back. I’m always here to help.

      Talk soon,
      John

  • Douglas Bews

    Reply Reply November 9, 2015

    Hi John,

    I know absolutely nothing about mobile homes and am looking at purchasing one here in town. I’m trying to find out the make of it but have no idea. I came across your blog and site and think it’s invaluable. Attached is a craigslist link of the unit for sale, do you know the model?

    http://nh.craigslist.org/reo/5273912751.html

    Thank you,

    Doug Bews
    Littleton, NH

    • John Fedro

      Reply Reply November 9, 2015

      Hi Douglas,

      Thanks so much for reaching out and commenting. Additionally, thank you for the kind words. I’m very glad to hear that this blog is been helpful to you thus far. There are few things I can tell from the ad in picture however the make/model of the mobile home is not one of them. This mobile home is obviously in a park so you will wish to contact the seller first to see if they know the make and model and other pertinent information of their mobile home. You may also wish to check the registration and/or mobile home title to verify the make and model information there. When mobile homes are shipped from the factory they have what are called a “data plate” somewhere in the mobile home typically in the master bedroom closet, pantry, kitchen cabinets, or where the hot water heater is. If you still are unable to find any information, even a serial number or VIN number, then by all means call the state and the local DMV to explain them your exact situation. Mentioned that you are a private buyer, purchasing from a private seller in a park. Give the clerk on the phone all the information you have about the mobile home such as the owner’s name, location of the home, title/VIN/serial numbers, etc. From this information the clerk over the phone will most likely be able to give you the make, model, year, dimensions, etc. They will also be able to tell you if there any current liens on the home and likely if taxes are current.

      Lastly, congratulations on finding a mobile home that you love. This one looks to be in decent shape and well-kept. If you have any further questions or concerns moving forward never hesitate to reach out anytime. Keep in touch.

      Talk soon,
      John

  • Chris Gutier

    Reply Reply December 3, 2015

    Hi John,
    I just have a quick question.
    Can I make a mobile home smaller?
    There is a mobile home that I would like to purchase it measures 14×46
    I would like to make it 14×40.
    Is it legal to do that?
    Chris.

  • Carlonia rodriguez

    Reply Reply January 20, 2017

    Have windows to be replace snd roof for deck

    • John Fedro

      Reply Reply January 25, 2017

      Hi Carlonia,

      Thank you for reaching out and connecting. I am unsure of the exact question you are trying to ask. I encourage you to comment back and re-asked the question again if possible. I apologize for the inconvenience. Please feel free to email me if that is more convenient for you as well. Take care. Talk to you soon.

      Talk soon,
      John

  • Sandy Coren

    Reply Reply April 18, 2020

    Hi John, I hope you are still on this blog. I am owner of a Mobil home that I bought and let a friend live in. he is now in a nursing home. When I enter the home it was so filthy, I started gagging. He is also a hoarder. I rented a dumpster and it is fill to the brim on a 400sq foot home. Part of the floor is soft or soggy. Part of a room addition roof has some rain damage. I want to repair what is necessary and sell the unit. I have gotten bids of $9,000 and upward. I just want to move it. Any suggestions on what is necessary repairs, that I would have responsibility for. I have totally cleaned unit, put in new toilet. I am a deer in the headlights any info would be appreciated. Sandy

    • John Fedro

      Reply Reply June 3, 2020

      Hi Sandy,

      Thank you for reaching out and connecting. Additionally, thank you for the detailed comment as the certainly does help me understand your situation a bit better. I very much regret to hear about the situation that you are in. It sounds like there was a great deal of junk in the home. Great job getting this cleaned out. I would absolutely encourage you to market the home online and off-line as much as possible. Make sure to let people know that it is a handyman special and needs a lot of work. Perhaps even make it sound a bit grosser and smaller than it really is. Try to break even or make a little bit of profit and move on. I hope this helps and starts to point you in the right direction. If you have any follow-up question or concerns never hesitate to reach out any time. Keep in touch.

      Talk soon,
      John

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